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| shodbyed |
Posted - 10/18/2011 : 5:32:18 PM
Now that my ears have had a chance to heal a bit, I must bring to the attention of those who have not yet played there that the arena on wednesday nights now puts on an open mic night. now i know every venue has its share of loud music and other such distractions, however the sound level here takes the cake. I could, however, over look the sheer volume if it weren't for how horrible, awful music that these bands put out. the screaming and howling growling is so bad i can't really begin to describe it. I dont understand why it is necessary to have music so loud that I have to yell with my mouth mere inches from whoever's ear in order to make them hear me. Now mind you there are breaks from this racket when the so called comics come out and try out their unfunny, vile cursing (dare i call them) jokes. I am no prude as anyone that knows me at all knows, but I found the comics totally inappropriate and offensive.
I must thank the opposing team (who agreed with our team) for agreeing to move our match to a different venue. Please dont ask me to go back there. I am thankful that I dont have any scheduled matches there. I do, however, am fearful that playoffs (if we make the cut) will end up there. I really dont think I could take it.
seems my whole life is underfunded and overrated. |
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| shodbyed |
Posted - 12/23/2011 : 5:53:38 PM
no it is a good reason for picking that spot, especially if you dont have any spare money to spend on pool. which is my point. they are attracting people who dont spend money, the very thing they are complaining about, from what you infer. I actually thought about playing out of there for that very reason, plus the fact that they have comfortable seating, however the things I spoke of earlier deterred me from that decision. If they stopped the practice of sponsoring the teams and focused more on the satisfaction and enjoyment of the teams players, (like Sal does) they might attract a more profitable crowd.
How can people make their favorite pastime so stressful? |
| Phil |
Posted - 11/26/2011 : 8:37:11 PM
Ed, are those reasons any less legitimate than your reasons for choosing Butera's?
Phil
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| shodbyed |
Posted - 11/26/2011 : 7:43:09 PM
yes phil they have their reasons. their reasons are because the arena pays for their team to play. so they are attracting the players who dont want to spend money. smart huh? and phil it is not me who is their customer. at least not any more. i am most certainly not their customer.
seems my whole life is underfunded and overrated. |
| Phil |
Posted - 11/23/2011 : 9:12:38 PM
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[i]Originally posted by shodbyed[/i]
[br]If a manager is tending the bar and sees you and me standing there waiting to order, which one do you think will get served first. If he has a brain in his head it will be you. That is just good business. He SHOULD have more interest in your satisfaction.
Actually, the ones with a brain will serve YOU first. I am not their customer. My customers are their customers.
Concerning choices, people (teams) make different choices for different reasons. Those who choose the Arena as their home location have their reasons. Nobody is in any danger there, so if a team makes that choice we will respect it.
Phil
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| shodbyed |
Posted - 11/23/2011 : 4:36:44 PM
Phil while I doubt they have a button to "cook this good" if you dont think they treat people differently, just go to a restaurant that a friend waits tables at. they will be over to your table more, the food will be better (probably bigger portion) because your friend will talk to the cook. it will come out faster. If a manager is tending the bar and sees you and me standing there waiting to order, which one do you think will get served first. If he has a brain in his head it will be you. That is just good business. He SHOULD have more interest in your satisfaction. Common sense. Employees, even if not directly told, will do the same if they know you are important to the business. Its just the way it is. Truthfully I really just dont like the place. Never really have. Now I guess I am just spoiled by how good the tables and service is at Butera's billiards. Aside from not having a "full kitchen" they will ALWAYS be my first choice as a place to play pool. Oh and by the way I do order food there anyway.
seems my whole life is underfunded and overrated. |
| Phil |
Posted - 11/23/2011 : 3:13:27 PM
There is, ask them. I don't know if the Thursday team will be playing on Thursday in the Spring, but if they are and you're there, ask them.
The captain I spoke with was a VISITING captain. I don't think it's just the home teams.
The other way to do it would be to have the Arena designate those tables as the league tables. They can do that.
Phil
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| rhaydt |
Posted - 11/23/2011 : 11:11:04 AM
Thursday night!
As a visiting team to the Arena we do not have a choice of table to play on. And it seems to be the visitors that are complaining. And come January that will be me. I quit playing in Camarillo because of Outlaws and their extreme volume levels. We actually had to leave the bar to take a timeout so we could hear each other.
The tables by the restrooms are fine to play on, this is where I played when I was on an Arena team.
So Phil, is there any way to encourage the home teams to play on these tables during loud events?
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| Phil |
Posted - 11/23/2011 : 08:08:47 AM
Ed, the cooks in the kitchen don't know who ordered the food. My order gets punched in at the bar just like yours, so I highly doubt there's any special preparation going on. Do you think there's a special "cook this good" button? It's simply a matter of personal taste - I like the food, you don't. That's fine, but my point was that the location is in the business of selling food and beverage, and if they aren't selling that to one crowd they could do a couple of things. They could change their menu or their prices as you suggest, or they could try to cater to a different crowd that doesn't take issue with the food or the prices. Keep in mind that their kitchen also serves the hotel restaurant(s) and room service, so bar patrons are probably third in the pecking order already.
On the good news front, the Arena is moving the open mic show to Thursdays starting in January. They are doing this specifically to address the issue with the Wednesday APA teams. The only reason they don't do it right away is that there are NFL games on Thursday nights for the rest of the year. This will reduce the problem, but not eliminate it, as there is one Arena team on Thursday.
One more note on this topic - I was at the Arena a couple of weeks ago on Wednesday night. I noticed that it was quite loud by the pool tables where the league matches were being played. I also noticed that it wasn't nearly as loud on the other side of the bar, where there are two perfectly good pool tables. When I mentioned that fact to one of the team captains, his reply was "Yeah, but they're not DIAMOND tables." Maybe teams that play at the Arena should "lower their standards" a little bit and play on the Valleys in the back before they complain about the volume in the front.
Phil
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| movistar |
Posted - 11/23/2011 : 12:17:30 AM
hey Shodbyed.... hang in there.... at least you havn't been called a liar ... congratulations... |
| shodbyed |
Posted - 11/22/2011 : 8:03:36 PM
Phil, I agree it would not be right to bring outside food into one of the establishments. I have never done that. But if you ask why they might not get my money I refer to my previous statement. Perhaps they cook and serve differently for you, being an important person to their business, than they do me or someone else, being just another apa member. I have stood at the bar on wednesday nights for 10 minutes without ever seeing the bartender then been ignored for another 5 when he returned. As for the TV shows, while they may take some "creative licence" for entertainment value, the overall theme seems to be pretty standard and full of common sense. Keep your customers happy. And show them SOME respect. I guess I will have to just stop being a customer of businesses that refuse to even try to keep me coming back.
seems my whole life is underfunded and overrated. |
| Phil |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 8:59:42 PM
Ok, now that we've cleared up the fact that you lied twice in this thread, back to the topic at hand. What aspects of the current rule do you think need to be changed?
Phil
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| movistar |
Posted - 11/11/2011 : 3:27:19 PM
I fully understand what bylaws are but I also know that anything can be changed if people work together especially if some things which are "laws" really defy common sense. disagreeing with a rule doesn't mean that I don't understand them it just means that I will lobby to change them if i feel they are outdated or not in the best interest of pool and it will help pool players in general |
| Phil |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 10:16:20 PM
So you're saying you really don't know what the bylaws are? Then why get so defensive?
Phil
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| movistar |
Posted - 11/10/2011 : 4:46:31 PM
my statements may not always be funny but I ALWAYS speak the TRUTH ! and everybody is entitled to their opinion
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| Phil |
Posted - 11/09/2011 : 3:12:08 PM
I'm not necessarily talking about either location or you specifically, Ed. I'm giving examples of some of the things I hear when I talk to location owners & managers. As you are probably aware, it only takes one or two occurrences for the location to generalize the behavior to all of the APA teams.
Personally, I've never had a problem with the food at the Arena, quality or speed of service. It may be different on week nights, I don't know, but I like a lot of the things on their menu. That aside, even if a person doesn't like the food, the prices, or the speed of service, bringing in outside food is not cool. I have SEEN that at the Arena.
Also, I think you might be putting too much stock in what you see on TV. Those shows are known to use creative license to make things more interesting. I personally know bar owners who are furious with them, as they can do more damage than good.
Phil
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