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| Peter L |
Posted - 08/01/2005 : 3:10:54 PM
Torsten recently mentioned an incident about accidently hitting the cueball with a bridge, which occurred in a 9ball match last week. I am captain of the opposing team in this incident. As Torsten says, the player pocketed the object ball, but the cue ball shot back off the cushion into the bridge. The question was whether it should have been ball in hand. We tried by phone to get a ruling, and alas we got a mistaken opinion that the shot stands. Unfortunately, each player needed only 2 more points, and it was the final match of a dead-tied night. The player who benefited from the call went on to make another shot, and take the match.
In our 8 team division, we must have playoffs to determine champions, and a trip to the regionals. Our 2 teams are in 2nd and 3rd place, separated by only a few points, and with 2 weeks remaining we might very likely meet in the playoffs anyway, while the current 1st place team (approx. 20 pts ahead) might likely meet a wildcard team anyway. I'm not happy with the regrettable finish to our match last Thursday, but what is the best remedy at this point? We can't tell now what would have happened if the correct call had been made (ball in hand). As it turned out, the final match was scored 12-8 to our team, and we learned the correct ruling afterward. Our team won 54-46 on the night, including the dubious final match score.
I propose that we amend the final match score to 10-10, thus making the overall team score of the match 52-48. Lisa, Torsten, Taz, Phil, what are your comments?
I would also like to say that during the incident and afterward, every individual on your team showed excellent sportsmanship, as fine as I've seen anywhere. Hats off to Lisa K, Torsten S, and the rest of the team. On a final note, I would like to acknowledge Kristi Krakower for her great sportsmanship. In an earlier match of the evening, she accidently touched the cueball with her stick. It was extremely minor, and I don't think anyone saw it happen. But she didn't hesitate to pick up the cue and announce ball in hand for her opponent. Thanks, you all set a great example. |
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| Kerry Randolph |
Posted - 10/08/2005 : 5:13:46 PM
Since we are on the subject of good sportmanship I would like to praise David Otineru for his behavior. I played David in a nine ball match Thursday the 6th of October. David brought his "A" game and unfortunately I brought my "C" game. He kicked me up one side and down the other, but he kept a line of conversation going with me and joked and even told me good shot when I did make a few balls. He carried himself with dignity and showed me respect throughout the night. I appreciate a good shooter and a good winner. Thanks for the game David. |
| Torsten |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 3:53:54 PM
Peter
I appreciate your gesture very much. It's quite sporting of you. But as I posted on the other thread, I could very easily have avoided the whole thing simply by having my rulebook handy. I'm as much to blame for the error as anyone. I agree with Taz and Phil. The result should stand. Mistakes are made sometimes, we learn, and we move on. We're having a good and enjoyable season. In the very unlikely scenario that those two points are the difference between us making the playoffs or missing them, we still wouldn't have any reason to gripe. There are plenty of opportunities during the season to win matches and gain points. I have faith that this is the season where we take advantage of our opportunities. 
Thank you for your compliments. Lisa threatens to beat us mercilessly if our sportsmanship isn't up to par.
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| Taz |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 1:24:49 PM
Peter,
We commend you for your sportsmanship and your desire to "right a wrong"; however, there is no remedy for this. Once the two teams agreed on a course of action, the match was continued and finalized, the scoresheets signed and turned in, the results stand. |
| Peter L |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 12:01:52 PM
Phil, point taken. But in your example, the guy who lost requested the correction. In my case, it's the winner conceding the dispute, and willing to remedy the mistake. cheers, Peter |
| Phil |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 10:27:33 AM
It is a rare occasion (and this is not one of them) when we change the results of a match after a rules issue has been resolved (right or wrong) and play has continued. There are many occasions where the two teams are mistaken about a rule and do something they shouldn't have done, many of which result in points (or games, in the case of 8-Ball) going the other way. We do not want to start down the slippery slope of deciding which of these occasions warrant changes in the outcome of a match.
"The opponent knocked the five ball off the table and we counted it as a dead ball instead of spotting it. Had we spotted it, our player could have won the match - he only lost by one ball. Can you adjust the scores please?" These are the kind of requests we would get if we started changing results after-the-fact.
Phil
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| trhxke |
Posted - 08/02/2005 : 08:49:59 AM
I too compliment Torsten and his entire team for sportsmanship. It is a pleasure to play them anytime and they DO set an excellent example for the rest of the league. They all shoot good and ....win or lose ....they have a good time. That is the way it should be!
Tom Hardinger
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