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aseltzer

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Posted - 01/13/2009 :  2:40:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was extremely surprised to learn that the breaker is allowed to interfere with the cue-ball (like grabbing it), before it strikes the rack. Everywhere else I've played, you interfere with the cue-ball, you have fouled.

Live and learn.

Moose Dragon


USA
128 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2009 :  08:22:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Typically if a breaker can grab or interfere with the cue ball on the break they have miscued and the cue ball is not traveling very fast. The reasoning behind being able to grab it is it would not be a legal break anyway (because 4 balls would not hit a rail) and this keeps the other player from having to rerack. It saves time and frustration.
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D-RACK


USA
321 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2009 :  12:35:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe that u should let the table take its course. If the cue scratches then then it's your break and their rack. Never should interfere with the ball.


D-RACK

Edited by - D-RACK on 01/16/2009 12:36:03 PM
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Nathaniel


USA
25 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2009 :  3:46:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Nathaniel's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree with D-Rack...

Even if it is a weak break 4 balls don't have to hit a rail, you can just make one and it counts.





Nathaniel H.
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Moose Dragon


USA
128 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2009 :  4:45:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree if there is enough speed on the cue ball to even just make one of the back corner balls than yeah you leave it alone. I do believe if that is the case most people are not going to be able to get to the cue ball before it hits the rack. There is the miscue on the break that has the cue ball barely able to get to the rack and bump it just enough to cause a rerack. That is the situation I was referring to. I personally do not and would prefer my teammates and opponents to not touch the cue ball and just let it roll. I will gladly rerack while I make a few snide comments.
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katolin007


USA
51 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2009 :  9:17:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit katolin007's Homepage  Click to see katolin007's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I had a situation where my then male "2" was breaking. He miscued and the cueball did a slow roll and caromed off the rack and scratched, resulting in the opponent having the right to break.

According to page 1 of the 8-9 ball Rule book, item 3 - Breaking:
"...If the break does not qualify as legal, the balls are reracked and rebroken by the same player. If the break does not qualify as legal and results in a scratch, the balls are reracked and broken by the opposite player."

Had my player stopped the cueball early, he would interfere with a scratch. To avoid any sportsmanship issues, I generally try to teach my players not to interfere with the cueball at all in any situation, let it stop moving before touching the cueball.

"Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't be mean in saying it." - Kato Lin
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