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Posted - 08/04/2010 :  12:37:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was told by an opponent that when hitting into the cue ball when frozen to MY contact ball, that this is a double hit. My question is how can this be so since they are frozen for all intents and purposes are they not actually considered one ball, as there is no room for the cue ball to bounce back into my cue?

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Taz


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Posted - 08/04/2010 :  06:04:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Taz's Homepage  Send Taz an AOL message  Reply with Quote
No, it is not a double hit.
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Calcwby4u


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Posted - 08/04/2010 :  09:57:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit Calcwby4u's Homepage  Send Calcwby4u a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Taz, that in the scenario that you mention is could not be a foul for a double hit; however, if Taz or Phil would comment: If during your shot the tip of your cue remains on the cue ball longer than what is "normal" for a regular shot where the cue ball was not frozen, this would be considered a "push" and that IS a foul. All organizations have different rules and I'm not sure if I've ever see this is in the APA manual. Thanks Phil or Taz.
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Phil


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Posted - 08/04/2010 :  3:39:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Phil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The only place you will find a reference to a push shot in the team manual is on page 97, in the definitions section. That paragraph tells you all you need to know about push shots in APA leagues.

Phil
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Posted - 08/18/2010 :  08:35:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The rule is a little vague here (page 97) So you cant Obviously push the ball OR you can angle the cue? Am i to understand that if i use a normal stroke i am unsportman like, or is that only likely if i excessivly follow through? If the two balls are lined up to a pocket, i would use draw and make the shot without pushing. But if they are not lined up and i want to throw the object ball in with a short level cue stroke this is a unsportsmanlike. Games can be won or lost with this difficult shot, so i would like to know when my zealous opponent shouts "FOUL" what to say.

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Phil


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Posted - 08/18/2010 :  09:01:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit Phil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pull out your team manual, turn to the section on fouls (starts on page 48), and ask them to show you where that shot is a foul. On page 97, the key words are "repeatedly", "with force", "long follow through", and "may".

Phil
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Posted - 08/18/2010 :  6:33:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Phil for the good advice. Muchas appreciado.

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Edited by - n/a on 08/19/2010 01:13:45 AM
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Posted - 02/13/2011 :  03:01:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by mo2cros[/i]
[br]If you decide not to shoot offensively. And decide to shoot defensively away from your contacted ball , like in the case of a safety. It should be noted that your contacted ball must MOVE as you hit away from it, so as not to commit a foul. I was told this by the man himself.

think before shooting, then shoot someone thinking.



think before shooting, then shoot someone thinking.
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