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Keith


USA
242 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  11:15:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Keith's Homepage
I just thought you should know. In 8 ball all those rated as a 6 should aspire to be a 7. If you have the skill to be a 6 then you can easily win as a 7. Facing a 7 affects most people (by most I mean a vast majority). Most of those people let it negatively affect their game. If you don't believe this then why would a new 7 who should have been a 5. Beat a 3 who should have been a 4 6-0 in at least 40 innings. The 3 was getting at least a 3 ball run in every game before their match started. After he found out he was facing a 7 he couldn't make a ball to save his life.

Insert inspirational sentence here.

Edited by - Keith on 01/18/2010 11:15:38 PM
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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  11:39:48 PM  Show Profile
Yeah,I get that. I will be avoiding throwing my sl 3-4's at 6's and 7's, or visa- versa. I dont believe in that. Its kinda weak, and frankly quite chiken chit... I will play the 7's and some 6's. I dont have any others over 5 on my 8 ball team. I believe in playing as straight up as you can given the numbers you have to work with, this keeps it fun for all. It may not get the win in the end, but you feel good about it. It cracks me up when you put up a 3, and they throw a six on him/her...when there are other choices. The 3 should never have to play a 6-7, or visa-versa.... Thats rediculous, and discouraging.

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Keith


USA
242 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  06:36:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Keith's Homepage
How is it discouraging? When I was a 4 I beat every 7 I played. It's an experience that I hope everyone in league can enjoy. Playing someone that you think can run the table if you make a mistake. How do you think people go from a 3 to a 7. They see how the game can be played. Then work on their game till they are happy with how far they have come. I would hate to have to play my skill level all the time. You need to mix things up. Who knows maybe you have a future 7 on you team.

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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:50:17 AM  Show Profile
Practice, practice, and more practice.Thats how you move up.

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Keith


USA
242 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  09:40:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit Keith's Homepage
I would like to ask you a question. I don't want to offend you by asking this. How long have you played pool?

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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  09:47:35 AM  Show Profile
Lots when I was younger, Then in the bars through my 20's. Then not much for 10 years until this last year..Why?

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  10:27:59 AM  Show Profile
Look, Its okay to disagree. Where I am coming from is watching people avoid the tougher matches by playing weaker players. And that is what I am referring to. I see that alot. I know a guy who for the majority, puts himself against low skill levels.. And its real funny when he loses. I dont feel good beating a 3. I never felt good being a 4, and beating a 7, or 8. I wasnt properly ranked when I started, but I didnt know where I belonged. I feel the best feeling is when you play someone more your level, and win. That is rewarding for me. Disagree if you like, That is ok. Have a great day.

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Keith


USA
242 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  11:09:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit Keith's Homepage
When you were younger were you the best player around? Or was there someone that you played that would push you each time you played him? The point I am making is that everyone starts somewhere and moves on from there. I have a 3 on my team that loves to take on the other teams best player. I am my team's best player but I only play the other team's best player about half the time. To you that would make me a coward but I put myself up when my team needs me to go up. If that is to stop the current momentum or to take on an under rated player. It is players like my 3 that will be the league's next set of senior players. People seem to get better from playing those that are better than them. I like to allow my players to grow and don't hold them back from being inspired to get better.

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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  11:19:30 AM  Show Profile
As I said, Its the players who avoid the tougher matches out of fear of losing that I refer to. They know who they are. No honor in that. I dont see anything wrong with a 3 challenging the 7 at all. More power to him/her. I applaud that. Its obvious when someone is avoiding, and when someone is playing a strategy. Nothing wrong with strategy for the most part... There is a big difference. I just have a different look on it. Win or lose, we are gonna have fun.

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Keith


USA
242 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  5:34:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Keith's Homepage
Let's say that my team plays your and I put up first. I put my player up and you match with an equal player. After that match we both have 2 4 4 6 left to choose from. Your team puts up the 6 and my team matches with the 2. If I play it right then i have the advantage in two matches to the one you have an advantage in. This is because I then put up a 4 and you can match with a 2 or 4. Lets say you match with a 4. I now have a 6 and 4 while you have a 2 and 4. I would then put my 6 against your 4 and my 4 against your 2. Thus giving me an advantage in two matches to the one you have an advantage in. This form of dodging is known as being smart and getting an advantage. If I could do this with my team every week. Giving them a better shot at getting to the playoffs I would. But I'm not playing 8 ball right now and match-ups are a little different in 9 ball.

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Calcwby4u


USA
89 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  8:39:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Calcwby4u's Homepage  Send Calcwby4u a Yahoo! Message
Gosh .... that reads like someone has read the book "How To Be A Winning Captain in APA" .....
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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2010 :  12:11:21 AM  Show Profile
OK...You win...You win the right to play your way, and I will play mine.. Its a win win.

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Moose Dragon


USA
128 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2010 :  10:24:23 AM  Show Profile
Since this is a team game we play in is it not the responsibility of the captain to try and have a winning night/season/year/tournament or whatever the situation? We all have fun, but it is more fun to be on the winning team. I know if I lose my match and we win the night than I feel a little better about losing. As long as the captain is trying their best than I don't think anyone should put down how a captain strategizes.
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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2010 :  10:36:36 AM  Show Profile
okay, this is getting rediculous. I dont even know this guy Keith. If he feels judged, thats his issue.PLAY HOW YOU WANT TO PLAY FF SAKES. What the helllll do you or anyone else care what I think? I feel how I feel, and that wont change. I know for the most part there are teams who do well, and they dont "strategize" that way. I can count on most teams to play straight up, and I am quite proud of that, as I am sure they are too. If you know me, and I offended you, I apologize...its just how I feel.If you do not know me, and you are offended...Well, thats just kinda silly in itself isnt it?

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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Jeff Burkhammer


USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2010 :  11:56:19 AM  Show Profile
To clarify, I was referring to a couple people on the nights I play who avoid matches out of fear. I beleive it builds character to face a match you know you may lose heads up. I also say, that as a Captain, I will avoid those situations, as I dont beleive in putting a 7 on a 3 for an easy win. Thats my right. If you take offense, well maybe I struck a nerve. But if I dont even know you, You shouldnt take offense, as only you know if you play honorably, or if you are ashamed. Like I said, they know who they are. You decide who you are, and change it if it bugs you, or leave it if it dont. Its that simple. Peace

When your green you grow, when your ripe you rot.
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