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Keith
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 Posted - 12/11/2011 : 07:26:00 AM
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I think that this is a very touchy subject for some. I call my own fouls usually by tapping the cue ball with my cue or saying ball in hand. I as a captain have had one of my players overrule a third party because they didn't catch the foul. My player fouled in that instance. I am proud to say that I have players on my team that will call their own fouls even when the other team says it was a good hit. On the flip side of this. If someone feels they have to cheat to beat me then let them. It just helps me focus and enjoy the win that much more and is a weird way of complimenting my game. They are not just cheating their opponent but are also cheating themselves.
Remember the person you have to impress the most is the one you sleep with every night. |
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TracyW3
USA
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Posted - 12/15/2011 : 11:11:38 AM
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We have had this issue come up a few times in the last two weeks, two of which were double hit fouls;
1. The object ball was 1/4" from the rail with the cue ball 1/8" from the object ball at a slight angle, the shooter was attempting a very difficult (if not impossible) cut down the rail. A third eye was called and was taken by the shooter's teammate (SL6). The shooter hit the object ball and followed through pushing the cue ball into the rail where it stayed frozen to the rail. To me this is an obvious double hit, cutting a ball that thin, that close to the rail, would make the cue ball come off of the rail no matter how softly you hit it. But the "Third eye" disagreed and an argument ensued, in the end we had to go with the third eye's call, no ball in hand. LAME
2. One of our players was matched up against a SL2 player who's object ball was less than 1/4" away from the que ball, we called a third eye specifying that it was for the potential double hit. The third eye was taken by a SL6 player from the shooter's team. The player shot, after contact with the object ball the que ball traveled faster than the object ball even though the object ball was hit relatively full. Lucky for us this shooter called the foul on herself, acknowledging the double hit even though the 3rd eye denied the foul.
In both cases, third eye was called. In both cases the third eye was obviously wrong. Lack of knowledge about double hits and push shots is my pet peeve, not knowing the rules and making a call in third eye situations IS cheating. |
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Taz
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2011 : 04:21:09 AM
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First, there is NO SUCH THING AS A "third eye". I really wish people would stop calling it that. You do not have 3 sets of eyes watching the shot. A THIRD PARTY is designated and agreed upon to watch the shot. AGREED UPON are the key words. Like it or not, once you agree on a third party, their call stands, period, end of story.
Tracy, you wrote that a third party's call was "lame" because you disagreed with it. I think the "lame" part is having an argument ensue becasue you disagree with a call made by an AGREED UPON third party.
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TracyW3
USA
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Posted - 12/23/2011 : 3:39:19 PM
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Hi Taz, Hope you're enjoying the holidays!
Third eye is what has been called out since I started in the league, I agree that it's not an appropriate name for the function, but I can't start that revolution.
I was not the only one who disagreed with the call, in fact, I wasn't even part in the argument. It's hard to agree upon a third party, but we generally go with the highest ranked available player from the shooter's team and hope they are honest. I feel like that's reasonable, unfortunately not all of them are honest and that IS lame. |
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