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Kerry Randolph
USA
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 Posted - 06/27/2006 : 5:09:36 PM
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I just read this article about second hand smoke.
TUESDAY, June 27 (HealthDay News) -- No amount of secondhand smoke is safe.
And the only way to protect nonsmokers is through smoke-free environments. Separating smokers and nonsmokers within the same air space or relying on sophisticated ventilation systems just doesn't work.
That's the conclusion of a new U.S. Surgeon General's report issued Tuesday, which determined that nonsmokers who were exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work had a 25 percent to 30 percent increased risk of developing heart disease and a 20 percent to 30 percent increased risk for lung cancer.
"Science has proven that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Let me say that again: There is no safe level of exposure to secondhand smoke," Dr. Richard H. Carmona, U.S. Surgeon General, said in prepared remarks. "Only smoke-free environments effectively protect nonsmokers from secondhand smoke exposure in indoor spaces," he said.
Now I appreciate everyones rights to do as they please. That is what this country is founded on. I also believe That right should be "as long as you are not harming others with your actions"
Just a little something to think about next time you lite up. |
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Rich
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Posted - 06/28/2006 : 5:28:17 PM
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Normally I wouldnt reply to such a higher than mighty format you
set forth, but here goes.
Come to think of it, I'm just wasting my time with this.
At least 50% of the people who read this will understand.
The other, well, that's why it's a waste of time. |
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Ron Y
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Posted - 06/30/2006 : 11:09:24 PM
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| Kerry, Is there a bar/pool hall that allows smoking indoors in our league? |
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Jinny
36 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2006 : 08:25:22 AM
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Ron,
On Thursday Oxnard 9 ball, there are 3 of the 7 locations that allow smoking in the bar. Kerry's home location is one of them.
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Doug Gill
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2006 : 10:04:50 AM
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Just to clarify....there are only 2. One is a private club and therefore exempt. 
Just as with everything, one has choices.
Good Shooting! |
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Ron Y
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Posted - 07/02/2006 : 10:02:20 PM
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Jinny thanks for the answer. 3 out of 7 wow.
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Kerry Randolph
USA
172 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2006 : 10:11:13 AM
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| Sorry I have not replied before. I am on vacation and just now got access to a computer. I did not intend for this to become a discussion about the bars I play in, but more of just something for people to think about. We all have the right to do as we please. If the smoke is bad enough I leave or go outside. I guess it is not that bad as I still go into these bars and play. |
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ApaMVP
USA
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Posted - 07/10/2006 : 10:57:05 AM
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Allow me to suggest a solution to those who are most offended or bothered by the locations which allow smoking at their establishments in which league play also occurs.
As team captain of a team that did play out of a bar that allowed indoor smoking, one opponent made it a point that the smoking bothered him, and here is the compromise we made. We discussed an alternate location of OUR choice that did not allow smoking to play the league match at. We coordinated this through the league office and the new location that would host us that night to ensure we were not conflicting with any existing schedules.
This can only be done if all parties involved agree, but in our case, it showed respect from our team and our opponents generously bought our entire team a round of drinks, in which our team kindly responded by contributing the money to our home bar, in the form of a tip, since league play didn't occur at the home bar and it would have slightly dented our home bar's staff tip money that evening. |
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davidh
USA
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Posted - 07/10/2006 : 3:16:36 PM
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For those who value science over propaganda, I direct them to this website: http://www.smokingaloud.com/ets.html, which points out a few flaws in the "argument" for the damage caused by second hand smoke.
"It's been said that if you tell people a lie often enough, they will begin to believe it."
Take Care,
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Kerry Randolph
USA
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Posted - 07/12/2006 : 4:45:50 PM
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I checked out the website davidh mentioned. I saw nothing there that discussed the health issues of second hand smoke. what I did find was a bunch of moronic stuff like this.
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The ongoing anti-smoking campaign is not about public health, drug abuse, or teen smoking. What it is all about is money, control, and jurisdiction.
Now I don't know about any of that, but I do know that I get no money, no control, and have no jurisdiction over anyone just because they smoke.
As far as being lied to about this. I guess my teachers from Jr. High through college are just a bunch of liars, or maybe they are in on the conspiricy to. Well I don't believe that. I believe the hazards of smoking are real, and I believe the second hand smoke is just as dangerous and causes lung cancer just like actually smoking does. I also know how I feel after a night of second hand smoke. The shortness of breath, the lack of energy, and the bad taste in my mouth, not to mention the fact that I have to shower when I get home from pool because of the stench.
So I don't care about any conspiricy or the taxes imposed on cigerettes, or how smokers are feeling like they are discriminated against. What I do care about is my health and the health of the people I know.
I would feel bad if a habit that I have is known to cause cancer and death in people that don't deserve it.
In the end we are all responsible for our actions. |
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Taz
USA
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Posted - 07/12/2006 : 5:39:56 PM
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The point of this post is not to engage anyone in this controversial topic (right or wrong, like it or not, is not the issue), but rather a quick note for Kerry and anyone else planning on attending and/or participating in the upcoming APA National Championships.
Smoking IS allowed in all tournament rooms at the APA National Championships. Factoring the amount of participants, it gets pretty thick and often times bothers even those of us who choose to smoke. If there is in fact something out there that might help you get through that better, you may wish to take it with you. Someone mentioned Benadryl the other day, but I don't know if that is effective, so you may want to consult your physician.
Just wanted you to be prepared rather than show up uninformed.
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Kerry Randolph
USA
172 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2006 : 08:08:40 AM
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Believe me Taz I have been preparing myself for nationals since we qualified, and I now it will be tough, but I think I can endure it for the weekend. Can a player have an oxygen tank at the pool table?
Thanks Taz |
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rhaydt
USA
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Posted - 07/13/2006 : 10:31:50 AM
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| Taz brought up a good point. The air is actually thick with falling ash. Seriously, this is what the non-smokers like me need to do at Nationals. Bring several changes of clothes for each day. And bring a large plastic bag to seal your dirty clothes up in, otherwise your hotel room will begin to smell like an old ashtray. |
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Rich
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Posted - 07/22/2006 : 3:07:06 PM
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I've been to Nationals and the smoke is not that bad. With the high
ceiling and wide space, you dont smell a tar baby. I'm not sharing
this because I smoke. It's just to make everyone at ease and not to
worry. For those of you who are going, Congradulations and play well.
Ice Man
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Calcwby4u
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2006 : 11:12:16 PM
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| It's interesting that APA is the only National Organization that holds pool tournaments at the Riviera and allows smoking in the venue itself. All others permit smoking in the hallways but not in the competition area. Might be a good class action situation. |
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Torsten
USA
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Posted - 07/24/2006 : 3:41:27 PM
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With due respect, please don't even mention things like class action. Participating in national championships in Vegas is a great honor, and one you have to work very hard for. It is also voluntary, as nobody can force you to go. Nor can anyone force you to stay in an area permeated by cigarette smoke. Therefore, no suit on this would ever hold water. Yes, I am a smoker. However, I too prefer non-smoking locations. I prefer that cigarette smoke enters, and subsequently pleasantly blackens my lungs, not irritatingly reddens my eyeballs. That said, the laws of Las Vegas and the state of Nevada are such that smoking is permitted pretty much anywhere.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." |
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