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poolguy

USA
54 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  2:38:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit poolguy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Team Manual is very specific that a jump cue cannot be used in APA play. I've read elsewhere where, if a player is playing where his shot is hampered (he cannot take a full stroke because of an impediment like a post that is too close, for example) that a short cue can be used, as long as that cue is available to all players.

A jump cue is a short cue, and my question is can it be used for this one specific purpose ... to shoot when you are hampered? Or, do you need to have a cue that is simply a shorter playing cue? The reason I ask is that lots of players have a jump cue in their case, but few that I know of have a "shortie".

John

It only hurts if you miss.

trhxke


USA
142 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  2:49:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit trhxke's Homepage  Send trhxke a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
John,
I don't know if there is a specific rule on that one but I do know I have used a short house cue a couple of times because the wall or a piece of bar furniture was too close to make a complete stroke with my own cue.

I would think that if you had an obstruction to the shot and you and your opponent agreed that it was ok to use your jump cue to make a short shot it would be of no interest to anyone else.
On the other hand if your opponent objected to the use of your shortie in that case your would probably be required to use another solution to the situation...if that happened to me.....
You can be sure my opponent would have to make a similar compromise later in that same match and maybe more than once....he he...
"Don't get mad, get even."

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Taz


USA
555 Posts

Posted - 12/26/2007 :  3:59:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Taz's Homepage  Send Taz an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The APA does not permit the use of a Jump Cue to execute Jump Shots. Once again, you choose to take a rule which addresses one situation and try to apply it to others instead of allowing commmon sense to prevail.

Since jump cues are in fact shorter than regular playing cues, it should go without saying that it is permissable to use them as a "shortie". It would not be used as a jump cue. And yes, the short cue must be shared with teammates and opponents alike. Anyone unwilling or unable to share the shortie should simply keep it in its case and make do with whatever house equipment may be available (not all host locations have shorties) or do without.
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poolguy

USA
54 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2007 :  09:10:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit poolguy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Taz,

This actually happened. I offered my jump cue to a teammate who was obstructed, the opponent said "jump cues are illegal", my teammate chose to continue with his full length cue, and the game continued.

Why didn't I call the APA office? I wasn't playing, the players resolved it themselves, but most important, I had read the rules and remembered under "Equipment" in the Team Manual that jump cues are specifically disallowed.

I asked here because common sense told me that the jump cue should have been allowed in the case above. Your answer tells me that my intuition was correct.

John

It only hurts if you miss.
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movistar

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Posted - 05/09/2008 :  8:56:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit movistar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
just an opinion, but we all have them..
I think, it is the SHOT is what is illegal... the jump stick is made JUST like a regular cue,...a butt... a shaft... and a tip
it is just a shorter version of the "big stick"...
and should be allowed for regular shots (not jump) when necessary

shoot well and keep your head down
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