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Keith
USA
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 Posted - 04/11/2009 : 12:43:35 AM
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How much does it matter skill level wise when a player is coming back from an injury that kept them off their feet for about 6 months?
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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Phil
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2009 : 09:18:31 AM
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For something temporary like an injury or illness, we do not make any adjustments to skill levels. We only consider that for permanent things like the loss of a body part that directly affects the ability to shoot.
And before anyone asks, no, killing brain cells with beer does not qualify as loss of a body part...
Phil
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Keith
USA
242 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2009 : 3:19:38 PM
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If the player in question is having to relearn a stance and cant get down on his shot because he blew out his knee. Wouldn't that fall into a category for consideration? It is kind of like if you had to play with your front leg in a knee brace that kept it straight.
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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Victor
USA
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Posted - 04/20/2009 : 4:09:00 PM
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Hi Phil,
Re your beer analogy:
My extensive and on going research definitively prove that beer (and other alcoholic beverages) increases one's abilities and brain strength. It's proven that booze kills brain cells. If one takes into account the Darwinian theory of survival of the fittest, it then goes without saying that the alcohol attacks the weakest of one's brain cells. Hence, the ones that remain are the best and brightest! Notice how much smarter you become after a couple of brews. One can also dance better, sing better, f***k better and, of course, shoot pool better.
My research would suggest, that when facing a drunk opponent, that he/she should be given at least a temporary increase in their skill level.
Victor 
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Keith
USA
242 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2009 : 10:36:49 PM
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Under that advise I should drain a bottle of tequila and catch a ride to pool as my team is on the verge of missing the playoffs. It also might help with the match ups. Don't worry I won't drive after drinking as that was not on the list of things that it enhances.
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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Keith
USA
242 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2009 : 10:38:29 PM
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Problem some might say that I don't have enough to kill off though. I might be walking a fine line.
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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D-RACK
USA
321 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2009 : 12:46:46 PM
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Not true phil.... I had ankle surgery and was off me feet...and no pool for 6 -8 months...
I dont feel like my game is the same.... Why cant I go back down?
think I should start over as a 4
D-Rack
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Torsten
USA
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Posted - 04/22/2009 : 2:42:47 PM
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Keith, it's time to put this to bed. There's no question the individual you're talking about suffered through a rusty period after his unfortunate, and no-doubt painful injury. However, anyone who has seen this individual play knows that he's ranked correctly where he's at. There may have been a time in the first few matches after he started playing again post-injury where you could say, "Hey, I know the APA doesn't generally make these adjustments, but he suffered a serious injury and is unable to compete unimpeded. A temporary 1SL drop may be appropriate." But certainly not now. I know his win-loss record is less than stellar, but I have been paying attention. Not too many of those losses have been thumpings, and the past four or five times I've watched him play, he's getting back into the swing. He's a competitor, and will be just fine.
I think the worst time to have a heart attack would be during a game of charades... or during a game of fake heart attack. |
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Keith
USA
242 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2009 : 11:44:04 AM
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Torsten yes my dad has gotten better over the last 1 or 2 weeks and I hope that he can keep it up. The thing is that his last match is the first time his opponent hasn't given him the game on a silver platter and he was competitive. That has happened about 6 or 7 times and he got 2 wins out of his matches before last week. His average loss has been about 17 to 3 and I consider that a thumping. Your girlfriend beat him 18 to 2 if I remember correctly. He then went on to lose his next couple matches 17-3 and 19-1. He has repeated this cycle one or two more times. But hopefully any stretches like that are done. I would be happy if he could be competitive in about 50% of his matches. All in all considered I do agree that now is not the time to move him down. I am anxious to see how he does and hope for the best.
On another note good game last night and you deserved the win.
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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D-RACK
USA
321 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2009 : 1:23:54 PM
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Keith -
Did you fill out a SL evaluation form?
Write him up to go down? |
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Keith
USA
242 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2009 : 3:01:29 PM
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I was told previously that evaluation forms are only for those who are under rated.
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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Taz
USA
555 Posts |
Posted - 04/23/2009 : 7:19:56 PM
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| You have been misinformed. |
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Torsten
USA
401 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2009 : 10:37:09 PM
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Yes, Shannon did beat him pretty soundly. She had a good night. The other night, Verginia skunked Holly. Does that mean Verginia isn't a 2 or Holly isn't a 3? A few seasons ago, Richard skunked me. This season, Ben Thom and Matty both beat me 5-0 in 8 ball. Does that mean I'm not a legitimate 6? I went through a stretch last season where I lost something like 9 out of 10 in all formats. Granted, I didn't have an injury affecting my play. Still, the bottom line is that players go through stretches where they play below their levels whatever the reason, or run into a stretch where luck isn't on their side. Instead of hoping your player gets moved down during a bad stretch, my opinion is that you should change your coaching approach. Any time I go through a miserable stretch of play, I adjust my style to play more defense and hope to create opportunities for myself where I can set myself up for success with less pressure to make that first difficult shot. I coach my players to do the same when they're struggling.
I think the worst time to have a heart attack would be during a game of charades... or during a game of fake heart attack. |
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badactionpool
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2009 : 10:13:10 AM
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| i agree with you completely torsten. last season you beat me 5-0. we all have bad stretches and in my mind pool is you can regain your ability to fairly quickly. |
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ValleyMast
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Posted - 04/27/2009 : 12:32:06 PM
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I still hold a league record for 52 matches in a row losing both 8 and 9... It was because of my back problems. I finally got lowered... but the first night I played as a 4... guess what? Yes, I won.
Haven't you all heard of captains who keep certain players drunk so they don't go up? Does that count as sandbagging? |
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Keith
USA
242 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2009 : 4:41:18 PM
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My point got lost in the discussion. My dad had an injury that kept him out for an extended period of time. When he came back he was a shadow of his former self. At the time this topic was created he had lost 8 out of 10 matches. These matches were not close and if he was a 3 he still would have lost those matches. His average loss was about 17-3 and his average opponent was a 3. If he was a 2 then he might have won just under half of his matches. With all that said. He should not be moved down right now as he has found a way to shoot that is working a lot better for him. I don't know if he will be able to keep it up or if it is a fluke these last couple of weeks. I just wish that he had not gotten hurt in the first place.
Hey I was just told that we are supposed to make the balls in the pockets. That makes a big difference. |
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