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[i]Originally posted by poolguy[/i]
[br]Phil,
I read your answer and that's why I asked my question about consistency. You did, in fact, cover every scenario I can think of.
Your answer in this thread is what I was referring to. That answer didn't seem to preclude droping your stick as a shot. But the scenarios you gave definitely did preclude that. I just think your answer in this thread was "imprecise", in that it left out information. Or, am I missing something?
As an engineer (retired) I like to have as much information as possible. That's just the way I am. The APA rules leave out a lot of information, which, to me, makes it even more difficult to figure out what is allowed and what is not. I couldn't find anything in the rules saying that a shot required cue tip to cue ball contact, but that's clearly what is required as I read your answers. (It would be interesting to see how much english you could get if you shot with the cue backwards and used a rubber butt piece to apply the english ... it would grab much more than chalk.)
Oh, and another scenario came to mind. Would it be legal if I could take the cue tip, put it under the cue ball, and quickly raise it so that the cue ball was raised and "jumped" over a ball or over a partially impeding ball? That's not a miscue type of jump. I'm not sure it's even possible, but your answer to this thread got me to thinking of other applications where a non-forward stroke might be useful.
John
It only hurts if you miss.
1) Yes, you are missing something. I don't know what, but keep re-reading until you figure it out.
2) Except in the case of a "swerve" stroke, you cannot produce more spin with a "stickier" device than you can with just enough chalk to prevent the tip from sliding on the cue ball. In fact, you may produce LESS spin and more throw (the cue ball will slide on the cloth instead of rotating about its vertical axis).
3) For someone who requires precise definitions, I am surprised that you even ask about a jump like that. The definition of a jump shot on page 95 of the Team Manual clearly precludes that type of jump. Note that the definition doesn't use the word "miscue" when describing an illegal jump shot. Miscue or not, if you scoop to jump, you have fouled. Interestingly enough, if you look at the definition of a miscue on page 94, you will find that the only time an intentional miscue is a foul is in the "jump shot" scenario.
4) This thread has gone on long enough. Give it a rest.
Phil
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